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Hi All!

I'll be looking for a new touring bike later this year and am currently doing one of my favourite past times, dreaming and looking at new bikes on the internet! One of the biggest decisions I need to make is whether to switch over to Rohloff hub? Maybe on a Thorn hand built bicycle. I like the idea of low maintenance after becoming increasingly annoyed with my dérailleur starting off perfectly at the start of a tour, but after a week it starts to get a bit erratic after picking up dirt and grime along the way. I like slightly off road dirt tracks. I do clean them up along the way, but over time it can be a losing battle until you get somewhere where you can give them a complete clean, when normality is restored :-) There are worse problems in the world, but when riding for mile and mile, it is the little things sometimes that drive you mad! :-)

Anyway, I hear lots of good about Rohloff - the only bad is if they break you are stranded. That doesn't bother me, there is always a way out of situations and the history of reliability appears to be good. What I'm after is what are they like on a day to day basis? Good or bad feedback. The one thing I'm slightly concerned about is the noise; people mention they are noisy. Is this true? Lets say I'm a little sensitive to bike noises! :-)

Look forward to some replies.
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hi all, i am planing a uk & european tour and opting for an "atl-falter" from radnabel in tuebingen, germany. falter stands for folding. they are not well known outside of central europe, been handbuild for nearly 30 years and are high regarded for being - safe (long wheel base, low center of gravity), nimble (sharp turning circle), quick (ergonomic design & pushing against the backrest/very good uphills), comfortable (no neck, groin or wrist pain, full suspension), good load carrying capability [70kg total], "protecting" (see: allwetterverkleidung/foldable fairing/poncho), well engineered and sound workmanship. although dieter baumann (builder) speaks english, the webside is in german only. the atl-falter with rohloff, full chain cover, rear rack, pannier holders, twoleg stand weighs 17-18 kg (chrmo steel).

happy cycling or as we say in bavaria: "frohes radln"
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you get a better idea about radnabels atl's watching these videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZgX6zIViBY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsBEvBX_S4o

they have proved themselves also on long distance tours germany to china.

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reinhard
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I have Rohloff and would not go back to derailleur. It is perfect for touring with fully loaded bike.

Next upgrade is Gates Carbon Drive.
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Never really looked at belt drive before - they look brilliant :D

http://www.gatescarbondrive.com/products/overview
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Not got one myself, but a mate of mine has and swears by it. A no-nonsense way of touring I'm told. The £1000 ish price tag is what puts me off, but guess by the time you add up chain set, derailliers, etc... it all adds up. Why don't you try before you buy?
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cheers for the reply. Good point on the cost when compared to all the other bits needed. Your right on test ride - something I plan to do for sure before spending all that cash.
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I love my Rohloff, wouldn't part with it now. We toured for 2 yrs, another one in the planning and we're using the same ones, they will last a lifetime. We never had any problems, but I'm not the engineer HE is! They are bloody heavy, and now they are even more expensive (we bought ours in 2007 for 600E each). Wouldn't recommend transporting your Rohloff in your hand luggage through South America though, ended up costing us $35 to put it in the hold, they didn't get it!

Our Thorn frames are also ace, and they accommodate our Rohloffs perfectly. What more can you ask for when you're touring, oh, except a Brooks saddle :)
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Thank you for the advice. After a test ride on a Rohloff, I'm going to go for one.

I have only ever heard great things about Thorn bikes. I'm currently staring at the Mercury model in gun metal colour - awesome bike. pretty sure it will be my next bicycle :-)

Completely agree re Brooks - I find they don't even need much breaking in and are so comfortable from day 1.
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